In which Jude has strong opinions about seated meditation, the implications of stuffing 5 years of plot into 4 years and ending up with less-than-enlightened centrism and n*zis, vigilante justice by way of diplomatic immunity, real-live free-range criminals as training dummies, and the problems implicit in hiring your ex to captain the space station you currently use as your seat of power for an interstellar alliance. Bester returns to his favorite corpsicle mall for fresh telepaths, Garibaldi exudes more sleaze-oil than the annual production of OPEC, and we ask an important question: does JMS actually want us to like Lochley?

Also, so much coffee talk.

Sponsor us, Onyx Coffee.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

CW GENOCIDE, and also a detailed discussion of a sex scene. Skip from 6:00 to 56:45 to skip Secrets of the Soul.

We're joined by Richard Kreutz-Landry @rkreutzlandry! Lightbulb tweetstorm here.

Descent into Midnight: @DIMrpg

Secrets of the Soul: In which we discuss tentacle-to-glowing-ball ratios, telepath power creep, nurses in adverse working conditions (pak'ma'ra and telekinetic), telepath ORGIES and the least sexy sexposition ever, and some very questionable infosec policies. And then Ana murders Jude. And then they talk about the sex scene some more. Zathras suffered.

A dramatic revelation about the director ensues.

Day of the Dead:

Written by Neil Gaiman?!? Jude agrees with Lochley, exactly once. G'Kar is rendered temporarily homeless by magical realism. For that matter, everyone gets visited by ghosts from their past. A crispy critter comes back to visit, making exactly zero people happy--Morden is upgraded from low-rent John Travolta to evil John Mulaney. Richard comes up with the dead-ex Ghostbusters corollary. Jude gets quite angry about the "humor". Much discussion of what could have been done with the Reebo and Zooty airtime instead. Jude politely requests "G'Kar/Picard on Risa" fics.

Zooty zoot zoot!

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Genre-aware Centauri architects, a Doctor Who crossover?, G'Kar and Londo doing NOTHING to dissuade the shippers, Jude yells at John Sheridan for a while. The story challenges of making a surprise season 5 are discussed at length.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Zathras dips into alternate timelines to find other shows that we thought about covering. Zathras is contractually obliged to be sorry for what you are about to hear.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

CW: discussion of alcoholism

In which the gang discusses the abruptly truncated telepath storyline (and a fun tongue twister), Bester implanting Asimov's Laws in Garibaldi, JMS writing himself into a corner and then painting a door to escape, the utility of a bucket of wrenches, comparisons are made between Lochley and Bester, and we point out repeatedly that the only nice thing to ever happen to Lyta was that Zach brought her a pizza once. After a brief diversion into discussing the new JMS comic that we're not going to read, we cringe over Afterburner brand whiskey (that's gotta be a mach 2 hangover), Jude continues to ship Franklibaldi, the lack of google reverse image search is posed as a challenge, and wait... is G'Kar getting royalties? JMS has evolved to the point where he's inserting pre-buttals into the text of the show.

Did we mention that watching Bester taunt Garibaldi is super fun?

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

We're joined by David Gordon Buresh to talk about one of the standout episodes of Season 5, "The Corps is Mother, the Corps is Father"

After some reminiscing about growing up in similar frozen tv deserts...

Jude has a very short episode summary (LIAR), we learn what a PsyCorps internship looks like (spoiler: be warned), what a PsyCorps procedural would look like (yikes), and Bester is surprisingly not horrible. We give Walter Koenig a generous helping of our love for his consistently stellar portrayal of the best human antagonist of the entire show. Jude also claims to be an expert on bad wigs, briefly.

WHAT IS IN A PAK'MA'RA's HUMP? Wait, I'm sorry I asked.

David Gordon Buresh is a journalist, activist, author, and creative consultant with a lifelong love of gaming, science fiction, and storytelling. Located in New England, he has written and consulted for several games and journalism outlets. He is most famous for his Dave of the Five Rings blog on Cardboard Republic, a monthly blog coverring the popular card game and setting Legend of the Five Rings. Presently, he has taken a sabbatical from games journalism to further his education in political science, with a focus on indigenous rights. He can be found on Twitter at @SndWurks, and would like to remind you to support indigenous causes and to decolonize your media as the first step to decolonizing your mind. #LandBack #DefendICWA #TheFutureIsDecolonized

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Meditations on the Abyss, in which Jude barely contains his snark over the Lennier plotline, we discuss the logistics of 23rd century fast food localization, we realize that Vir started with regicide and worked his way down to vandalism, and intercultural cuckolding is argued about at length. So many meme references.

Darkness Ascending, where we quarantine the Garibaldi plot, there's a disagreement over exactly what happens behind the curtains in G'Kar's residence, Justen drops an exceedingly spicy take and Jude immediately one-ups them, we dunk on Jude for no longer hating Franklin, and then we realize that G'Kar is the first person on the show to treat Lyta like a person. Horniest b5 episode?

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Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

And All My Dreams Torn Asunder, in which we discover Justen's numeralogical quirks, Jude's distaste for loafers, and there are big questions about SheriDelenn as #relationshipgoals.

And then in Movements of Fire and Shadow: Wait, Lochley is still on this show? Don't go to Garibaldi for hotel recommendations because you're guaranteed to have some goons come over your balcony. Lyta has big Emma Frost energy, and we beg Sheridan and Delenn to not talk in public about their sex lives. Finally, Justen asserts that the entire Minbari species are never-nudes.

This episode is not sponsored by, but instead actively disavowed by Taco Bell.

Connect with the show at @babylonpodject

Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

In which we spend way too long avoiding the episodes in question.

In The Fall of Centauri Prime, we discuss the poorly animated hentai dick monster and how it should have been a muppet, the number of repeat actors typecast for prosthetic tolerance and believable assholery, and we mourn the end of Londo's redemption arc and the damp thud of Lennier's arc.

In The Wheel of Fire, we get one of the last Jude summaries of the series, Zathras keeps a running count of the torched "intervention" banners, we get One More X-Men Reference, the phrase "space Argentina" is uttered, and we fantasize a little too long about what Lyta and G'Kar get up to.

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Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

In which we discuss the best song to block a telepath with, and then dive into the stories at hand.

Objects in Motion: Qualitatively the horniest episode of the show? Jude puts out a call for G'kar/Lyta fics, we could have had so much more Number One, and we talk about the relative merits of pure technobabble vs. trying to explain things.

Objects at Rest: In which DragonCobolt is one of the unlucky 10,000 in learning about the full context of the Lennier Plot, we do more dreaming about what might have been with a next iteration of the cast (a new generation, if you will), and we have some pre-final thoughts about everything.

Connect with the show at @babylonpodject

Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

"The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecome

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

The Descent by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descent
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii