Episode Notes

S2E11: Rivals S2E12: The Alternate

Rivals: Humperdink! Multiple widows. Bashir turns the twink meter up to 12. O'Brien suffers level: old sports injury. Ketchup shenanigans. Bajoran Orphans Fund! Spinning neutrinos and gambling... And the solution is "explode them". Ma Kent is a Nigerian Prince Scam. Bashir has "grown" since season one. Jude makes a prediction about Bashir/O'Brien. "I didn't beg you, I blackmailed you." New rule of acquisition!

The Alternate: Plegg invented pornographic DVDs. Odo's "dad" visits, accompanied by PATERNALISM. No, I didn't like the science because I was the science. This is a dad-heavy episode.

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Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

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Episode Notes

Justen (and Ana, once she remembered we were recording) speaks with John Concagh about fan history and deep, deep Trek lore. Warning: really deep lore.

John Concagh is a postgraduate historian of the British Empire, and the writer of THE EDGE OF MIDNIGHT, a fan non-fiction work covering the history of the Federation - Klingon Cold War. He can be found at @Badsocialism on Twitter and Blusky. Tranquility Press can be found at https://tranquility.press/.

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

Connect with the show at @babylonpodject

Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

Intro Music: The Gigantic Epic Day After Tomorrow by Sascha Ende Website: https://filmmusic.io/song/413-the-gigantic-epic-day-after-tomorrow Licensed under CC BY 4.0: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

Second Sight: Everyone is so supportive of Sisko getting back out there. They want Captain Dad to be happy. The fact that the anniversary of Wolf 359 goes by without notice tells you when this show was. Nog Sex Ed again. The sub-genre of one-episode Trek romances.

Sanctuary: Kira's no-good-very-bad-day. We're not big fans of this episode or the portrayal of the aliens. The plan is really not good but that doesn't stop everyone from blaming Kira and Bajor for some reason. We use video game logic to give a better explanation. Paramount, hire Justen to write some novels. Quark is right.

O'Brien Suffers Level: Dreaming of an empty ticket queue.

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

Jude can't do IKEA. Or social situations.

Rules of Acquisition: Out of all the Starfleet captains, Sisko gets Ferengi. THIS is how The Dominion is introduced? This is accidentally a screwball comedy. The Ferengi work better in this show because they get to breathe. And they're all bottoms.

Necessary Evil: A plasma storm is a metaphor for a station and its inhabitants. We're doing NOIR. Odo/Quark/Kira backstory! Bajoran fashion. Gul Dukat never stops vamping. Rom Skills!

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

Invasive Procedures: The senior staff--and Quark. The lived experiences of Trill washouts. Jude has questions about Trill, and so do the rest of us. Bashir shows some skills. B5 crossover via stunt doubling! What makes Sisko great?

Cardassians: Secret Agent Garak! Dukat and Garak have a... history. Sisko always looks good. Jude breaks the plot accidentally. Dukat never has an ounce of doubt. Keiko's continual lack of cross-cultural sensitivity. O'Brien never does what you expect a stock character to do. This episode really makes it clear how different DS9 is from all other Trek.

O'Brien Suffers Level: PTSD

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

Yes, it's a three-parter, but all three are GREAT. Welcome to season 2 of DS9.

The Homecoming: Call your factions one thing and just roll with it. Every character choice for O'Brien is "working class hero". Gul Dukat's statement is basically "we're sorry we got caught." Wait, is this a B5 episode?

The Circle: Kira's hunka hunka monk. The Bajoran monasteries must constantly be ordering 55 gallon tubs of baja blast lube. "Here is our traditional garb, the banana hammock". Odo deputizes Quark? Nothing says Bajoran independence like Cardassian torture.

The Siege: Nasty fascist republican sex. Benjamin "Not on my watch, motherfuckers" Sisko isn't having the Federation's limp-dick hands-off approach. Nog and Jake are best boys. Trill are psychic-type and thus weak to bug type. Julian is dramatic. Jadzia gets even more depth. Odo and Quark are the two most married characters in Star Trek.

O'Brien Suffers level: Ride or die for Kira.

rejected titles for this episode:

• Their monks can fuck
• The ceremonial banana hammock
• Sure he's a sex pest but he's honest about it
• Nasty Fascist Republican Sex
• Hunka Hunka Monk
• No one touches Sisko's Balls

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

Connect with the show at @babylonpodject

Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

CW: Discussion of actual not-amusing war crimes, and religious extremism.

Jude gets a promotion!

Duet: People with the appelation "The Butcher of..." are always delightful people. This episode is packed with powerful performances, and the actors are up to the task of lifting this very heavy material. Bajor gets a lot of complexity that other species do not.

In the Hands of the Prophets: Space Karen is back! Bajoran/Federation relations take a hit over education, but to be fair it's hard to teach about religious practices when the deities do in fact appear to exist. Jude twigged to Neela's nature immediately because O'Brien isn't supposed to be a sex symbol. Sisko Dad Mode on religions is an important and well written/acted one. O'Brien Suffers level: Religious War

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

Connect with the show at @babylonpodject

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

Jude bucks for a promotion. Justen is sleepy.

The Forsaken: Wait, what is that music? It's... it can't be. It's Lwaxana Troi! The most DTF character in Star Trek. The Lwaxana/Odo pairing is spectacular. "The thin beige line between order and chaos" nearly killed Jude. Sisko is in dad mode all day. Has Odo ever had "the talk"? Lots of great one-liners this episode.
O'Brien Suffers Level: a new puppy.

Dramatis Personae: Alien fuckery! A new clock for Sisko! Nothing else in this episode matters in the least bit. At least the actors had fun. O'Brien Suffers Level: the audience suffers worse.

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

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Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

The Storyteller: Get in the minivan, Bashir! Horny teens should not be in charge of negotiations. O No My Bukkit. DS9 learned important lessons from TNG in terms of how to treat teenage characters--specifically, let them be cringe and celebrate it. Ferengi kinks. Justen strays into blasphemy. O'Brien Suffers Level: Dal'Rok

Progress: Let's talk about eminent domain. What the hell do self-sealing stem bolts do? Invisible seaming techniques. The long-term payoffs of this episode should have been better than they were. Jake gets a lesson in profit. Kira gets a little radicalized.

If Wishes Were Horses: Turns out that O'Brien CAN tell a good story. Bashir's fantasy is hella problematic, because we all know he's a bottom. Random space phenomenon that appears once and never returns, yaaaay. O'Brien Suffers Level: Rumplestiltskin?

Also: Baseball.

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

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Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page

Episode Notes

Vortex: A... changeling? Odo--authoritarian, utilitarian, or just childfree? Good old ass-forehead trek aliens. Klingon shift! Jude trips over the plot from season 4-7.

Battle Lines: Kira's "secret" Cardassian file. Artificial purgatories are kinda shitty. The procedural plot is REAL BAD, the plot-plot is kinda hard to watch. Killing off the space-pope after two appearances?

O'Brien Suffers level: Ochre Runabout destruction count: 1

BabSpace9 is a production of the Okay, So network.

Connect with the show at @babylonpodject

Help us keep the lights on via our Patreon!

Justen can be found at @justenwrites

Ana can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.

Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.

Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings.

Clips from the original show remain copyrighted by Paramount Entertainment and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.

Music attribution:

Original reworking of the Deep Space 9 theme by audioquinn, who stresses that this particular war crime is not their fault.

This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii

Find out more at http://babylonpod.page